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PostSubject: A problem with chung781   Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:35 pm

A guy named chung781 tk 'd me and another guy by ramming our helicopter on purpose. I reported him and he was kicked. He comes back talking a lot of smack towards me and gets in the chopper with me then redlines and tks me. I report it and nothing happens. Then he does it again. I ask in chat why no one is banning him and then I get banned for 24 hours for "wasting air assets and lying" How fair is that?
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PostSubject: Re: A problem with chung781   Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:14 pm

The reason you were banned is

"24 hrs ban for wasting air assets previous round and lying"

The truth is you were complaining about marlbororeds.

tommy5015 Global [18:40:02] the guy marbororeds is whoring the chopper and rufused to pick up a gunna admins please kick him
tommy5015 Global [18:41:00] j!report marbororeds refusing to pick up a gunner
tommy5015 Global [18:41:43] !report marbororeds refusing to pick a a gunner in heli
tommy5015 Global [18:45:14] this guy marboro reds shot me before getting in
tommy5015 Global [18:47:27] !report marbororeds redline tk

After the round was over, the battlerecorder file was verified for that round.
He never intentionally teamkilled you and he never redlined you.
You were inside the cobra as pilot and you wanted marlborored to switch to the pilot seat so you can be the gunner.
He did not switch and you as pilot inside the cobra did not move for a couple of minutes, and that is wasting air assets.
Marlborored was banned for not picking up a gunner when requested and ramming an f35 while taking off.
And you were banned for the reason explained.
Ban stays as stated.
And yes... it is fair.

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PostSubject: Re: A problem with chung781   Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:26 pm

yes he did redline me, when he rammed that f35 taking off I was a copilot . And he did it right after taking off. How is that not a redline?
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PostSubject: Re: A problem with chung781   Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:34 pm

NEXT ROUND

tommy5015 Global [19:12:32] !report chung 781 for tk
tommy5015 Global [19:13:40] !report chung781 for tk
tommy5015 Global [19:17:54] chung781 should have been banned look how he comes back and is unsportsman like
tommy5015 Global [19:22:04] *§1DEAD§0*!report chung781 redline tk
tommy5015 Global [19:25:35] ban chung781 for tk already
Chung781 Global [19:25:52] i didn;t tk anyone
Chung781 Global [19:25:59] since i was kicked
tommy5015 Global [19:26:09] yes you redlined me'
tommy5015 Global [19:26:21] twice now
tommy5015 Global [19:27:29] he redlined me twice after being kicked for 2 tks
tommy5015 Global [19:27:41] he should be banned

Chung never intentionally teamkilled anybody and certanly not 2 redlines or 2 tks as you said.
I should extend the ban for 3 days, but because looks like you dont know what a redline is, then dont accuse players for redlining you.
A redline is when a pilot move the chopper to out of bounds in the screen to kill the gunner.

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PostSubject: Re: A problem with chung781   Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:45 pm

I was under the impression that a redline was any intentional killing or crash "bail and splat" ect of a co-pilot. Chung781 did a bail and splat twice to me. This was after he was kicked for 2 previous teamkills from ramming.
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PostSubject: Re: A problem with chung781   Thu Apr 25, 2013 10:08 am

One thing for sure is, That when Blanco states how something happened on the server, you can take that as a FACT!!!

He views the battle recorder and states EXACTLY what happened.

Please be correct in your terminology about what happens or didn't happen when you complain on someone.
Sounds like you are referring to "Darting" a vehicle when you say "red line"

Darting= using a aircraft to take out a tank or some other enemy object by bailing out or your aircraft and it crashing into
the target you wanted to destroy but the key here is you must bail and survive or it is a ram (NOT allowed)

Red Line= being in control of a chopper and taking the gunner just out of bounds so it gives them the warning of being out
of bounds and leaving them out of bounds until it kills them.
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PostSubject: Re: A problem with chung781   Thu Apr 25, 2013 10:20 am

I have to complement Blanco and say thank you for ALL the time you take to fair and just with your server. And of course to the many other active admins........a big THANK YOU. Except for Kiddlano...................just kidding you little bastard.............. Cool Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: A problem with chung781   Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:29 pm

He didn't crash it into a enemy tank or vehicle he just crashed it into the ocean on purpose. Is that still called darting?
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PostSubject: Re: A problem with chung781   Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:55 pm




That would be wasting assets if someone just flies it and then bails out to destroy it. Darting is using a air vehicle to take out an enemy target and bailing before the impact.
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PostSubject: Re: A problem with chung781   Thu Apr 25, 2013 2:23 pm

If has a passenger thats in with him I think thats more than wasting assets, thats a tk.
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PostSubject: Re: A problem with chung781   Thu Apr 25, 2013 4:25 pm

i agree with Dano Cudos to Blanco, E, & Doug you guys do a great job of making it a fair server for everyone thanks for all the extra effort u guys put in... its much appreciated by the entire clan cheers cheers
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PostSubject: Re: A problem with chung781   Thu Apr 25, 2013 4:33 pm

It really doesn't matter If you call it a TK, or wasting air assets.
Marlborored was given a 24-hour ban if he does it again it will be a permanent ban.
The same penalty he would get for tking after being banned for it.
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PostSubject: Re: A problem with chung781   Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:10 pm

chung781 should be banned as well he came back from being kicked to tk me twice. why wasen't he banned?
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PostSubject: Re: A problem with chung781   Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:02 pm

tommy5015 wrote:
chung781 should be banned as well he came back from being kicked to tk me twice. why wasen't he banned?

He NEVER intentionally team killed you.
He bailed from the chopper when a jet was shooting the chopper and that happened only once.
In fact, the admin who kicked chung781 did it was because he trusted in your complaints, but chung781 was wrongly kicked.
We NEVER ban for accidental team kills.

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PostSubject: Re: A problem with chung781   Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:21 pm

I dont think you watched the right footage. I am a slow typer and I try to look up their name in the user list to try to get the spelling right so the report was made several minutes after he did it. Watch the footage 10 minutes before and after the complaint and you will see he tk me and he did it twice.
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PostSubject: Re: A problem with chung781   Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:08 pm

I played the right battle recorder rounds.
EVERYTHING HAPPENED AS STATED.
NO INTENTIONAL TEAM KILLS HAPPENED.
There was only 1 team kill (ONE) and was an accident.
My advice to all admins is to not trust in your complaints unless they can verify it.

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PostSubject: Re: A problem with chung781   Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:21 pm

Ok please post the battle recorder round on youtube. The team kills happened as I stated them. With no disrespect you first stated that marbororeds never tked me then and I was banned for lying about that, then later said that yea, he did tk me. The guy he rammed in the jet, who was taking off , killing that guy as well as me as a passenger, was a admin and I'm starting to think this was the only reason marbororeds was banned. Chung781 didn't kill a admin so I guess no one is interested in it.
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PostSubject: Re: A problem with chung781   Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:39 pm

The battlerecorder files CANT be posted in youtube.
I cant post it here in this forums so anybody can download the files and play it.
NO INTENTIONAL TEAM KILLS.
You were lying about the redline in both rounds.
Now tell me something.....Do you understand the difference between an intentional team kill and an accidental team kill ?

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PostSubject: Re: A problem with chung781   Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:44 pm

I have seen you post other battlerecorder files here this is one I found http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=X_PwazvYQqo I would like the ones of chungs tk's posted
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PostSubject: Re: A problem with chung781   Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:51 pm

Thats not a battle recorder file.
That is a video I created of a fragment of a round of a battle recorder file.
You did not answer my question.

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PostSubject: Re: A problem with chung781   Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:07 pm

Of course I know the difference between a intentional team kill and an accidental team kill
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PostSubject: Re: A problem with chung781   Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:17 pm

what ching did to me was intentional, you can see the things he was typing to me as he crashed that heli twice
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PostSubject: Re: A problem with chung781   Fri Apr 26, 2013 1:39 am

If you think those team kills were intentional, then you need to play a lot much more hours to know the difference.

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PostSubject: Re: A problem with chung781   Fri Apr 26, 2013 1:52 pm

gblanco wrote:
If you think those team kills were intentional, then you need to play a lot much more hours to know the difference.


Like I said post footage of those tk's on youtube for all to see. So far you have not posted anything proving me wrong. Chung was repeatedly typing things to me saying I suck and telling me to get out of the chopper, as well as saying bailout, jump out to me before he would even take off. In fact, I believe he actually at one point types "!report tommy5015 U SUCK!!!" Then after he was in the air within 30 seconds he would nosedive into the ocean. Please tell me how thats accident. Additionally you said I was banned for reporting Marlboro Reds, saying he never TK me then later saying that he did TK me. So in actuality, you should apologize for wrongly banning me in the first place. I tried to do the right thing and report people who are tk'ing and I get banned for it. What a "friendly" clan.
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